tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post4938158345169163626..comments2024-02-03T16:24:42.023-08:00Comments on 1410 OakWooD: McLean Build ReportGunnar Berghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17451985764040900726noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-19298516016267741682009-10-14T10:01:27.016-07:002009-10-14T10:01:27.016-07:00Gunnar,
yes, when they wear out.
best,
mwGunnar,<br /><br />yes, when they wear out. <br /><br />best,<br />mwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-56064642883995622672009-10-14T08:01:07.850-07:002009-10-14T08:01:07.850-07:00MW,
Do you upgrade the pads?MW,<br />Do you upgrade the pads?Gunnar Berghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17451985764040900726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-39353740358261448202009-10-14T07:25:26.638-07:002009-10-14T07:25:26.638-07:00The reason the old flat forged Campy design didn&#...The reason the old flat forged Campy design didn't work very well is because it was a very old flat forged design which didn't work very well, period. There was little competition, and therefore little evolution. When the Japanese began making brakes that worked well, Campy did make some statements about modulation, etc, which were patently silly. Of course, Campy developed their own dual pivot brakes in due course, which were an excellent copy of Shimano. The idea that any racer should prefer a brake which was inherently weak and flexible, like the old Campys, is and always was preposterous. This doesn't stop me from riding them to this day. <br /><br />michael whiteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-3459698736868743932009-10-14T05:40:49.891-07:002009-10-14T05:40:49.891-07:00I imagine there were pileups. All the racers of th...I imagine there were pileups. All the racers of the time were selected by evolution to have "The Grip of Death". Give them real brakes after the Campagnolos and they probably had issues. I think it was a real stretch for Campy marketing people to claim it was intentional design. Yeah, it was a feature alright - speed modulators.Gunnar Berghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17451985764040900726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-66232615457316251602009-10-14T05:18:06.428-07:002009-10-14T05:18:06.428-07:00I believe the campy reps explanation. I remember w...I believe the campy reps explanation. I remember when dual pivot Dura Ace brakes came out in the late eighties/early nineties. I was a racer, and the number of pile-ups caused by over-braking did seem to increase! (usually on straight sections of the course where it made no sense!) <br />I love the Modolo Pro calipers.<br />Beautiful bicycle!<br />-TonyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-28252888357506207752009-10-13T20:33:46.582-07:002009-10-13T20:33:46.582-07:00And So It Goes...And So It Goes...Jonny Hamachihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06526726976859619253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-22455901204660945822009-10-13T19:33:21.608-07:002009-10-13T19:33:21.608-07:00Allan: A Campagnolo rep from Italy actually said ...Allan: A Campagnolo rep from Italy actually said that. That was around 1983 or so.<br /><br />As I said, it actually makes sense in a weird way. Nonetheless, I agree with you: I want brakes that stop!Justine Valinottihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10852069587181432102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-17127117362433698082009-10-13T18:50:26.579-07:002009-10-13T18:50:26.579-07:00Hah! What a fun hobby, eh?
I'm envious. You ...Hah! What a fun hobby, eh? <br /><br />I'm envious. You are in the middle of the best part of the process--bringing all of the pieces of the machine together. So much more fun than cleaning and polishing. <br /><br />I'm at the point where I would have to sell a bike in order to make space if I wanted to build another one. Nothing nice enough has come along in the past few months to make me want to do such a thing. However, a McLean in my size and price would certainly fit the bill!<br /><br />AllanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-14053167999678980932009-10-13T17:55:01.324-07:002009-10-13T17:55:01.324-07:00Allan,
You spurred me. I am bidding on a REG bott...Allan,<br />You spurred me. I am bidding on a REG bottle cage. Very similar to the T.A., except Italian, which is more in keeping with the rest of the shiny bits.Gunnar Berghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17451985764040900726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-54006290371550295232009-10-13T17:41:57.345-07:002009-10-13T17:41:57.345-07:00Gunnar:
yep, that would fit the look and period n...Gunnar: <br />yep, that would fit the look and period nicely.<br /><br />I'm looking forward to see the end result of the build and to read a ride report! <br /><br />Cheers,<br />Allan PollockAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-46355998182399359882009-10-13T17:25:13.533-07:002009-10-13T17:25:13.533-07:00This is not the right post for this question, but ...This is not the right post for this question, but what bicycle is that in the photos on the left frame, and what handlebar bag?... You can't taunt visitors with such images and not link them!Lovely Bicycle!http://lovelybike.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-92135855776015657142009-10-13T11:32:50.292-07:002009-10-13T11:32:50.292-07:00Allan,
Good point. I agree. S/B a TA with the plas...Allan,<br />Good point. I agree. S/B a TA with the plastic end retainer.Gunnar Berghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17451985764040900726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-62733883927285486372009-10-13T11:21:21.605-07:002009-10-13T11:21:21.605-07:00Justine: did campagnolo really actually say that a...Justine: did campagnolo really actually say that about their brakes?! It's not a bug, it's a feature.... <br />Campy: "no, the brakes aren't actually meant to bring the bike to a stop"....<br />Reply: "what if I WANT to stop?"<br /><br />That's one of the best pieces of marketing BS I've ever heard.<br /><br />AllanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-50603610099002473752009-10-13T11:16:27.556-07:002009-10-13T11:16:27.556-07:00absolutely beautiful!
However, I must tell you--an...absolutely beautiful!<br />However, I must tell you--and I mean this with no disrespect--although the bottle cage is very nice, it is somewhat out of place on this build, in my opinion. <br /><br />AllanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-11408552495816845382009-10-12T19:46:10.178-07:002009-10-12T19:46:10.178-07:00Looking good!Looking good!Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090802854306112252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-76508801155848727342009-10-12T09:07:54.885-07:002009-10-12T09:07:54.885-07:00I love it! The bike looks elegant and understated...I love it! The bike looks elegant and understated, yet fast and efficient at the same time. McLean really left us to soon!<br /><br />You're right about the Campy brakes. What most people don't realize is that the brakes were designed to decelerate, not to stop. I learned this back in the day, when I attended a Campy seminar/workshop. The reason for this is that in the peloton, riders don't want brakes that will stop them on a dime because that would cause a pile-up.<br /><br />Anyway...I thank you for the good wishes you've sent my way!Justine Valinottihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10852069587181432102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-1999001914276640362009-10-12T09:07:03.867-07:002009-10-12T09:07:03.867-07:00ha: "unless there's something better"...ha: "unless there's something better" --very slippery slope. <br /><br />mwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-14164700856833717682009-10-12T06:12:32.049-07:002009-10-12T06:12:32.049-07:00Michael,
The brakes are older Modolo Pros (cuz Cam...Michael,<br />The brakes are older Modolo Pros (cuz Campys suck). The Modolos had rubber pads, so I cheated a little and upgraded to the newer sinstered Modolo pads. The levers will be the Modolo levers which have been on sabbatical with Jonny H. In general, it's Campagnolo unless there's something better (i.e. Phil Wood, etc).Gunnar Berghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17451985764040900726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-67373880544762581512009-10-12T05:39:35.730-07:002009-10-12T05:39:35.730-07:00what levers will they be? It's a really nice b...what levers will they be? It's a really nice bike. . . outfitted much the same as we'd have ridden them then. Seems like it'll all work beautifully togther . . . the only thing that really stands out for me, when I ride my retro Campy bike, is that everything works quite well except for the brakes. <br />best,<br />michael whiteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-14192654930525797412009-10-12T00:56:19.283-07:002009-10-12T00:56:19.283-07:00Stunning, just stunning.Stunning, just stunning.Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04611100524218776527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-62771415992643331852009-10-11T17:44:20.270-07:002009-10-11T17:44:20.270-07:00It's a beaut.It's a beaut.Jonny Hamachihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06526726976859619253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2695748260936745505.post-81214014356733583882009-10-11T17:42:49.198-07:002009-10-11T17:42:49.198-07:00Levers ship tomorrow.Levers ship tomorrow.Jonny Hamachihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06526726976859619253noreply@blogger.com